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 4/24/2006 2:29:08 PM
User is offlineMichael Soper
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Procedure of Contest

According to the USAT and WTF Competition Rules, no mention is made under the Article 10 "Procedure of Contest" that a referee must verbally announce "Chung-Seung" or "Hong-Seung".  For each prior procedure, a verbal command is included (Cha-Ryeot, Kyeong-Rye, Joon-Bi, Shi-Jak, and Keu-Man).

Is it personal preference to verbally announce the winner or is it a typo since the hand signals printed later seem to imply that declaring the winner also involves verbally announcing the winning contestant.

I cannot take full credit for thinking up this question, it was brought up by one of our Alaskan referees at our most recent referee class.

 4/24/2006 5:33:10 PM
User is offlineJeannette
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Re: Procedure of Contest
This sounds like an excellent question for the Doctor. I'm going to try to move this question into the Ref Doctor's forum
 4/24/2006 11:38:13 PM
User is offlineMichael Soper
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Re: Procedure of Contest
Thanks, I didn't realize it until it was too late that I had posted my question to the wrong forum.  Sorry for any inconvenience.
 4/26/2006 6:47:53 AM
User is offlineJeannette
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Re: Procedure of Contest
You're forgiven
 4/26/2006 8:02:41 AM
User is offlinebckwh
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Re: Procedure of Contest
Dear "Patient in Alaska," this is a good question, and one to which there is an easy response. I would refer you (collectively) to the section of the WTF Competition Rules that deals with the Hand Signals. Section 7 deals with Winner Declaration. In that section it clearly states that one declares Chung-Seung, or Hong-Seung, as is appropriate for the situation, while raising one's hand in the appropriate direction. This section elaborates on the information provided in Article 10.5.4. Thanks, Mr. Soper (et al) for the question.
~BHarris
 4/26/2006 5:00:09 PM
User is offlineMichael Soper
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Re: Procedure of Contest

Thank you for yet another perscription.  I too agree that the referee hand signals offer further explanation, not a differing opinion, on exactly how to declare the winner.  The only problem remaining is the apparent typo in Article 10 by not including the appropriate verbal command with the end of match procedure.  I could see leaving the article alone if none of the other commands made mention of the corresponding verbal command for each action.  This just helps add the likelihood of misinterpretation and inconsistency from referee to referee.

Any chance of the article being rewritten, or will it likely become one of the extra footnotes mentioned in seminars, similar to explaining the inaccuracy of the diagram for permitted/legal scoring area in Article 11.2?

 4/26/2006 5:06:02 PM
User is offlinebckwh
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Re: Procedure of Contest
Mr. Soper, I have no idea how the WTF will handle this particular situation. Perhaps, Dr. Sullivan will take note and offer a suggestion as to how to deal with this, since he is working with current WTF Referee Chair Hong Ki Kim. As for what USAT will do with this matter, I really have the foggiest idea. Perhaps it has already been addressed by the new HLTC Director and his Referee members. I have no clue as to what is going on in that arena. Maybe, somehow, your suggestion will reach the right ears and corrections may be undertaken. Better to ask me for a cure for cancer than to expect me to know what USAT will do with Referee matters.
~BHarris
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