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 How to issue a Joo-eui properly?
 
 6/4/2006 11:33:41 PM
User is offlinevincentlo
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How to issue a Joo-eui properly?
What are the proper procedures for issuing a Joo-eui properly? Every senior referee I've talked to has given me a different version. Some told me to indicate Shigan first, some not. Some told me to wave my hand just once from left to right, while some told me to start my hand in the middle, wave to left, then right, and then back to the middle. Some told me to verbally announce "Joo-eui," and point to the player again after waving the hand.

Thanks,
Vincent Lo
 6/5/2006 5:26:52 AM
User is offlinebckwh
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Re: How to issue a Joo-eui properly?
Mr. Lo, thank you for your question about issuing a Joo-eui. I, too, have noted several variations on this issue. As we know, a verbal warning is used to address an infraction that is not deemed serious enough to warrant a Kyungo or Gamjeom by the Referee. Still, every infraction should be addressed in some manner by the Referee. To that end, there is a verbal warning that can be used by the Referee to address those infractions of a minor variety.

There is one main consideration when issuing a verbal warning (Joo-eui). That is the saving of competition time. The Referee should always be careful not to wasted precious competition time and letting the clock run while explaining a verbal warning that has no effect on the score.

So, to that end, there are two ways of issuing a verbal warning. One (less formal) way is to not stop the clock by saying "Shigan," but by quickly and verbally issuing the warning while giving the appropriate hand signal for the unwanted action. For example, a contestant is holding the other contestant while in a clinch, but the action is deemed incidental by the Referee. As the Referee is breaking the two contestants, s/he instructs contestant Hong not to hold while giving the old hand signal for holding. Then the Referee quickly restarts the action. Little time is wasted off the clock while accomplishing the task of giving the verbal warning to contestant Hong.

In another scenario, contestant Chung is executing a high-level technique and ends up falling afterwards. Chung stays on the ground to re-position the shin/instep protector. In this case, it is obvious that time will elapse while Chung remains on the ground to fix his/her equipment. The Referee should declare "Shigan," motion for Chung to get up off the mat and, sshile the clock is stopped, issue a more formal verbal warning. The formal verbal warning (Joo-eui) is ossued by pointing the right index finger at the contestant while saying "Chung," then, starting with the open hand from the left side of the Referee's center, move the hand to the right, back to the left, and back to the right. THis gesture indicates a verbal warning. There is no need to say "Joo-eui." In some cases, it may not be clear to the contestant or to the audience why the verbal warning is being issued. For that reason, I recommend using the appropriate (old) hand signal to show what the infraction was. In this case of falling, it would be just using the left hand in a gesture of bringing the hand, palm facing upward, from below waist on the left side, to a point above the waist on the left side. This indicates staying up. Since you are issuing a VERBAL warning, the words may accompany the courtesy hand signal, or simply using the words to inform the contestant of the infraction is also sufficient.

A key element is to make sure that you, as Referee are facing in a position where it is clear to the Scorer's Table that this is a verbal warning, and not a Kyungo.

In summing up, if a Joo-eui can be given without wasting time off the clock, there is no need to declare "Shigan." If, on the other hand, it is obvious that time will elapse from the clock because of circumstances, the Referee must declare "Shigan" and issue a more formal Joo-eui. In both cases, it is advisable (though not necessary) to use a hand signal to inform the audience (along with the coach and athlete) of the infraction.

~BHarris
 6/6/2006 1:42:17 PM
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Re: How to issue a Joo-eui properly?
I was reminded that the Joo-eui is a "one-wave" signal, versus the Invalidation of a Point signal, which is two waves of the hand.

To elaborate:
- Joo-eui: Declare Kalyeo, Shigan, then extend the forearm and forefinger so that the finger is pointing at the center of the contestant's forehead and declare "Chung," or "Hong" as required. With the palm of the right hand facing outwards, bring the hand one tme to the left, then one time to the right. According to the WTF Competition Rules, this action is followed by once again pointing the forefinger of the right hand at the offending contestant. That is the official way of doing it. I would only add that, by indicating what the infraction is, this helps the contestants, coaches, and the audience to know what the verbal warning is for. Obviously, that is an option, not a requirement.
- Invalidating a Point: Declare Kalyeo, Shigan, then from the position of attention, extend the right hand (palm facing outward) in front of the face and overhead, extend the hand to the right, back to the left (past the center of the face) and once again back to the right. The Referee should then declare the penalty and re-start the match. According to the WTF Competiton Rules, the Referee does not declare Shigan until after the signal for annulling the point. This wastes match time. For that reason, I note that the Referee declares Kalyeo, and Shigan immediately afterwards, then gives the invalidation of point signal. I would also add that the Referee should point to Chung or Hong when annulling the point so that it is clear to the Scorer's table and the T.A. This should happen before pointing to the offender and issuing the penalty.

Remember that, if you invalidate a point, you must issue a penalty. One action must not happen without the other. Also, remember to face the Scorer's Table when invalidating a point.

I hope that this brings added clarity to the issue of awarding a Joo-eui and for Invalidation of a Point.

~BHarris
 6/6/2006 10:51:32 PM
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Re: How to issue a Joo-eui properly?

Hey Doc...

Would you address the finesse necessary in distiction between a Joo-eui and a Kyungo.

When operating the computer - I have been misled into scoring a Kyungo and scrambling to remove it -- when trying to interpret the Centers hand signals.

Particularly when the Center has their back to the table - and when their Joo-eui starts with their hand being thrown at the competitor.

The rapid hand motion (pointing at the competitor) looks like the start of a Kyungo. In your description of the Joo-eui, the center finishes with pointing at the competitor a second time. If a Center adds this emphasis of throwing their hand -- I can see the scorer stuggle with "what happend."

Would the finesse be -- for a Joo-eui, the Referee raises their hand towards the forehead the offending competitor (with no emphasis in jutting their finger towards the competitor).

 

Thanks !! --> Always trying to do better...  Always trying to learn...  Always trying to understand...

 6/7/2006 6:50:51 AM
User is offlinebckwh
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Re: How to issue a Joo-eui properly?
Mr. Mack, welcome to the Doctor's Office! And, thank you for posting your question.

The biggest distinction between a Joo-eiu and a Kyungo is this: When a Kyungo penalty is issued, the Recorder/Computer Operator will (should) see a signal from the Referee that begins with the forefinger of the right hand (right arm parallel to the ground) touching the left shoulder and continuing outward to the center of mass of the athlete being penalized. There is no wave involved at all. A joo-eui always involves a wavie of the hand, even if it ends with a point to the athlete receiving the verbal warning. Try to think of a Joo-eui as a "Dont' do that" type of signal.

~BHarris
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